Dank Weed's desperate messages

[ArabChuckNorris]

These messages sent to LLUA to establish an anti-LLUA team seem desperate. C'mon AES / AEP, y'all should for once have a fight instead of making others do the work for you guys and instead of just simming all round and just doing a one attack per account server.
Kinda sad reading these messages that Tom sent to most of LLUA's players.

Also Tom, if you didn't really want to establish a nap at first (or a confed), it's kinda ****** up to lie about it and once again betray an ally. This thing is getting repetitive.
BTW, it does seem as if you DID want a confed, so these messages you've been sending are kinda irrelevant, if you didn't want a confed, then you wouldn't have promised them one, period.

Once again Tom, betraying someone just to have a higher chance of getting a W. Eventually your team would realize of how dirty you play.

[Luisss]

Being privvy of the NAP conversation and the fallout of LLUA recently, I can tell you that you are so off-base its not even funny.

[Foley]

LLUA back at it again, weak and lacking leadership.

[LordDeath1.2]

These messages sent to LLUA to establish an anti-LLUA team seem desperate. C'mon AES / AEP, y'all should for once have a fight instead of making others do the work for you guys and instead of just simming all round and just doing a one attack per account server.
Kinda sad reading these messages that Tom sent to most of LLUA's players.

Also Tom, if you didn't really want to establish a nap at first (or a confed), it's kinda f-up to lie about it and once again betray an ally. This thing is getting repetitive.
BTW, it does seem as if you DID want a confed, so these messages you've been sending are kinda irrelevant, if you didn't want a confed, then you wouldn't have promised them one, period.

Once again Tom, betraying someone just to have a higher chance of getting a W. Eventually your team would realize of how dirty you play.

This is too funny... A fella doesn't even have to put an effort in to disrupt AE, Tom is doing that himself.

[ArabChuckNorris]

Being privvy of the NAP conversation and the fallout of LLUA recently, I can tell you that you are so off-base its not even funny.

How so? LLUA would have never accepted the NAP had the deal not been agreed on (which was to confed later on).
Tom is born for betrayal. I'm not supporting any sides here. But its kind of obvious that Tom is just back at it again with the dirty work.
Just waiting for that one moment that he sets up an OP in an alliance to all splat on a village, or maybe post a team's getter. I can smell this coming.

If you honestly think that Tom is honest and clean with the play-style, you might as well quit Travian.

[Luisss]

How so? LLUA would have never accepted the NAP had the deal not been agreed on (which was to confed later on).
Tom is born for betrayal. I'm not supporting any sides here. But its kind of obvious that Tom is just back at it again with the dirty work.
Just waiting for that one moment that he sets up an OP in an alliance to all splat on a village, or maybe post a team's getter. I can smell this coming.

If you honestly think that Tom is honest and clean with the play-style, you might as well quit Travian.

Everyone in Travian has a past. I'm only discussing the present, and here are the facts:

The NAP was a NAP. It was not a confed.

And LLUA imploded. Just those two statements alone refute most of your claims about Tom and this round.

I can also verify that SW/TD/Alcohol consolidating is what started the talks of a NAP between LLUA and AEP to begin with.

[ArabChuckNorris]

Everyone in Travian has a past. I'm only discussing the present, and here are the facts:

The NAP was a NAP. It was not a confed.

And LLUA imploded. Just those two statements alone refute most of your claims about Tom and this round.

I can also verify that SW/TD/Alcohol consolidating is what started the talks of a NAP between LLUA and AEP to begin with.

You are correct about the last sentence.
The NAP was a ceasefire at first. LLUA didn't agree to it at first, however they came up with the idea that they will accept this if eventually the NAP would turn to something more.
A day or two ago (when GG and LLUA merged to form one wing) the plan was this.
1. Merge together
2. Cut some players off the team
3. Form a confed with AES and AEP

Both teams before-hand agreed to a NAP under the condition that it would end up as a confed eventually, and yesterday was the time for that confed to happen.

Tom's past is something he is proud of, no doubt he plans to do the same buddy. This is easily noticeable, we even predicted that this would happen when the NAP was formed, however, personally I didn't expect backstabbing this early.
You guys need to learn how to backstab properly, at least do it after arti drops.

[Foley]

It's not backstabbing if you realize that your future wing leader allows his anvils to clear villages with their anvils (mainly phalanxes)

I watched a 10k anvil lose 3k troops to clear a village. Because they were bored.

How is a hammer supposed to feel safe with an artifact with your neighbors/allies doing that?

[ArabChuckNorris]

It's not backstabbing if you realize that your future wing leader allows his anvils to clear villages with their anvils (mainly phalanxes)

I watched a 10k anvil lose 3k troops to clear a village. Because they were bored.

How is a hammer supposed to feel safe with an artifact with your neighbors/allies doing that?

LLUA's leadership was okay with stepping down and giving their leadership to the AES council. LLUA does realize that their leadership is weak.
Their players also lack, their decisions aren't the greatest, but a backstab is just a backstab, no matter how bad another team is.

[Foley]

What backstabbing happened?

Realizing the leader of your future wing lies and cant manage his own alliance?

[ArabChuckNorris]

What backstabbing happened?

Realizing the leader of your future wing lies and cant manage his own alliance?

Talking behind their back to form an anti-LLUA is backstabbing. And so is discontinuing the deal.

Talking behind someone's back isn't backstabbing to you?

[Foley]

Talking behind their back to form an anti-LLUA is backstabbing. And so is discontinuing the deal.

Talking behind someone's back isn't backstabbing to you?

No that is talking behind someones back.

Tom told dude.here immediately when I approached him, on behalf of other disgruntled members. dude.here freaked out and revoked chat access. I left. Then he blamed Yuutang for not telling him about the group that he was not involved in and kicked him out. Farador left due to Yuutang being removed. Then LIVE fractured off.

Tom seeing this happened realized he needed to step in to keep LLUA together and stop the bleeding.

A deal or contract can be voided when certain terms or conditions are not met. Trimming off good players from the alliance is a little different than trimming farms.

[theanalogkid7]

This whole thing, man.

[ArabChuckNorris]

No that is talking behind someones back.

Tom told dude.here immediately when I approached him, on behalf of other disgruntled members. dude.here freaked out and revoked chat access. I left. Then he blamed Yuutang for not telling him about the group that he was not involved in and kicked him out. Farador left due to Yuutang being removed. Then LIVE fractured off.

Tom seeing this happened realized he needed to step in to keep LLUA together and stop the bleeding.

A deal or contract can be voided when certain terms or conditions are not met. Trimming off good players from the alliance is a little different than trimming farms.

Buddy, LLUA doing bad is not news. AES knows that they are new players. Why you acting as if they are just playing bad this round only out of nowhere?

[Krad_UZ]

All I hear is *****, *****, *****....Yes I am new here...y'all like child support....lets rush and modify it!!!

Everyone is SO quick to toss everyone under the bus

[RycorAbsinthe]

[Ninesukx]

LLUA back at it again, weak and lacking leadership.

You thought they would have learned something from us3 but clearly not.

[dude.here]

I love how Tiny Tim waltz's in here and pretends to have no blood on his hands. The original owner of the Zarrfot account had to bow out. We approached Tiny Tim Foley asking if he had any interest in taking over the account (knowing that he knows the game well and could offer up some valuable experience for the LLUA). He took the account over and said "I'm just gonna sit back and watch this round." Next thing I know he's leading a coup to take some of our best players.

I could go on and air out all the dirty things that Tiny Tim Foley & Two-timing Tom did this week. I could tell you in great detail how Tiny Tim secretly conspired against our leadership crew instead of offering to help make us better. I could tell you how Tiny Tim worked with YuuTang to swipe players away from us in a moment of desperation. I could tell you how Two-timing Tom said "First chance we get, we're gonna **** Foley." I could tell you how Two-timing Tom lied and when he was confronted about it he blocked all of us on Skype and refused to continue chatting with us. I could tell you who Two-timing Tom sent a MM to every single LLUA player trying to discredit its leadership in a last-ditch effort to dismantle the LLUA. But, I won't bother you with all the details ...

So please stop pretending like you aren't still holding the knife you used in your attempt to gut us.
Tiny Tim - you're as bad as Two-timing Tom. You guys deserve each other.

I will say, however, that we were transparent with our crew. They saw everything ... Our leadership chats, AEP NAP chats, etc. And every single person that was privy to that information is still with the LLUA. Why? Because they know the whole story. What does it say about Foley & Tom if the LLUA players know that we lack leadership experience here and continue to stay and fight with us?

[lethaljimmy]

You thought they would have learned something from us3 but clearly not.

Was the lesson, don't ever trust foley? He lied about the 3 quad snuggle on s3. Or just never put foley on your team. I suspect there are a lot of people that just learned that.

[RycorAbsinthe]

You know, after all this I still have to thank Foley. We could have just ended up recruiting a bunch of farms and liars. Thankfully Foley told the truth this time. We watched how Dude handled himself when we told him the absolute truth and he accused us of cheating like a high school girlfriend would when she's been 'ransacked' by the whole soccer team. It's funny really, I have to say that we made the right choice. lol

[ArabChuckNorris]

Was the lesson, don't ever trust foley? He lied about the 3 quad snuggle on s3. Or just never put foley on your team. I suspect there are a lot of people that just learned that.

Why are you hating on your teammate? That's news!

[RycorAbsinthe]

Foley is not our team mate.

Where are you getting your information from? A cereal box?

[ArabChuckNorris]

Foley is not our team mate.

Where are you getting your information from? A cereal box?

Oh man. I get my info from tons of places.
Foley is your teammate, you don't have to lie about that buddy. It's obvious.

(BTW, a joke is only funny the first time you say it).

[Foley]

Nobody likes me

[RycorAbsinthe]

You guys are just silly..

Foley isn't with us... if you couldn't tell more than half my council has it out for Foley.... As in personal vendetta....

All I can say is these transcripts from Slack are hilarious.

Dude.Here couldn't lie worse.... it's horrifying TBH...

[ArabChuckNorris]

You guys are just silly..

Foley isn't with us... if you couldn't tell more than half my council has it out for Foley.... As in personal vendetta....

All I can say is these transcripts from Slack are hilarious.

Dude.Here couldn't lie worse.... it's horrifying TBH...

Here on the forums. I will say things that are not true.

You're a joke.

[Foley]

Why are you hating on your teammate? That's news!

TWOCHIPS is my teammate!

You guys are just silly..

Foley isn't with us... if you couldn't tell more than half my council has it out for Foley.... As in personal vendetta....

All I can say is these transcripts from Slack are hilarious.

Dude.Here couldn't lie worse.... it's horrifying TBH...

I'm not even in the slack chat anymore

[RycorAbsinthe]

You're a joke.

I gave you those nice defense points and this is how you treat me

[Foley]

I gave you those nice defense points and this is how you treat me

I want some!

I only have offense points....

[ArabChuckNorris]

I gave you those nice defense points and this is how you treat me

Maybe later on when all your hammers splat on me I might treat you nicely.

[RycorAbsinthe]

Right inside there, we'll all splat

[ArabChuckNorris]

Right inside there, we'll all splat

Most likely you guys won't splat on normal players. It's obvious you guys will not do ops and most likely go for end game hammers only.

The only time you will splat is when you defend with your hammers.

[RycorAbsinthe]

You talk a really big game Chuck.

It's cute to see you trying to insult us into taking on your personal strategy

[Foley]

I love how Tiny Tim waltz's in here and pretends to have no blood on his hands. The original owner of the Zarrfot account had to bow out. We approached Tiny Tim Foley asking if he had any interest in taking over the account (knowing that he knows the game well and could offer up some valuable experience for the LLUA). He took the account over and said "I'm just gonna sit back and watch this round." Next thing I know he's leading a coup to take some of our best players.

I could go on and air out all the dirty things that Tiny Tim Foley & Two-timing Tom did this week. I could tell you in great detail how Tiny Tim secretly conspired against our leadership crew instead of offering to help make us better. I could tell you how Tiny Tim worked with YuuTang to swipe players away from us in a moment of desperation. I could tell you how Two-timing Tom said "First chance we get, we're gonna **** Foley." I could tell you how Two-timing Tom lied and when he was confronted about it he blocked all of us on Skype and refused to continue chatting with us. I could tell you who Two-timing Tom sent a MM to every single LLUA player trying to discredit its leadership in a last-ditch effort to dismantle the LLUA. But, I won't bother you with all the details ...

So please stop pretending like you aren't still holding the knife you used in your attempt to gut us.
Tiny Tim - you're as bad as Two-timing Tom. You guys deserve each other.

I will say, however, that we were transparent with our crew. They saw everything ... Our leadership chats, AEP NAP chats, etc. And every single person that was privy to that information is still with the LLUA. Why? Because they know the whole story. What does it say about Foley & Tom if the LLUA players know that we lack leadership experience here and continue to stay and fight with us?

lol wut?

How did I miss this?

I wanted to just sit back and watch. But unfortunately I cannot commit less than 100% to this stupid game. Also how many times did I tell you I was concerned about artifacts. How many times did I have to bring up stupid things that were being done in the alliance just to have you and vandy facepalm.

I wasn't going to push too much but uwi wanted to leave as well. He suggested going to AEP and was going to reach out through Shah to get a way in. I offered to ask since I know some people on the council (doesn't mean they like me)
Unfortunately I didnt take the time to screengrab all of my convos with uwi to show how it really went down since you removed me from slack.

But please go into detail of my master plan. I would love to know what you think really happened. Yuutang was not part of the breakaway group. I didnt even understand why he was removed from LLUA until I learned there was a whole other layer of drama. We only started working together when I had Yuutang tell Tom what happened to him and Tom decided that Yuu and I should work together to get ppl out of LLUA.

The reason players are staying is because they are scared of leaving and being alone in the world. I've been separated from the group for what 3-4 days now? You had your little gnat Zev attack me. So you gave me no choice but to start clearing out my 7 x 7. 27k dead troops and how many did I lose? I still have my hammer don't I?

I don't get what the coup was. Uwi and the germans wanted to leave, I became a voice for their whispers. However everyone pussed out when things got tough. I did not join LIVE because that is a group I am not a part of. I did not go to another alliance because right now it is just myself. You know what though? I'm not scared of being alone.

[ArabChuckNorris]

[dude.here]

lol wut?

How did I miss this?

I wanted to just sit back and watch. But unfortunately I cannot commit less than 100% to this stupid game. Also how many times did I tell you I was concerned about artifacts. How many times did I have to bring up stupid things that were being done in the alliance just to have you and vandy facepalm.

I wasn't going to push too much but uwi wanted to leave as well. He suggested going to AEP and was going to reach out through Shah to get a way in. I offered to ask since I know some people on the council (doesn't mean they like me)
Unfortunately I didnt take the time to screengrab all of my convos with uwi to show how it really went down since you removed me from slack.

But please go into detail of my master plan. I would love to know what you think really happened. Yuutang was not part of the breakaway group. I didnt even understand why he was removed from LLUA until I learned there was a whole other layer of drama. We only started working together when I had Yuutang tell Tom what happened to him and Tom decided that Yuu and I should work together to get ppl out of LLUA.

The reason players are staying is because they are scared of leaving and being alone in the world. I've been separated from the group for what 3-4 days now? You had your little gnat Zev attack me. So you gave me no choice but to start clearing out my 7 x 7. 27k dead troops and how many did I lose? I still have my hammer don't I?

I don't get what the coup was. Uwi and the germans wanted to leave, I became a voice for their whispers. However everyone pussed out when things got tough. I did not join LIVE because that is a group I am not a part of. I did not go to another alliance because right now it is just myself. You know what though? I'm not scared of being alone.

Wait, so let's recap:
Your coup failed, you're all alone because neither AEP or LLUA wants you, and you can't get reinforcements to save your life.

God, I love how you spin things to make it look like you were justified in stabbing us in the back.

[RycorAbsinthe]

[odinloki]

Being privvy.... I can tell you....

I can also verify.....

Ohh pahleeeese.. Like anyone believes YOU anymore.. lol

[Luisss]

Ohh pahleeeese.. Like anyone believes YOU anymore.. lol

[dude.here]

I'm apparently too new to troll in real time.
I haven't yet been released from the babysitter, I mean moderator.