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    Default Cops vs Cops - a game of Mafia

    Premise

    This town is almost full of cops. And the town (and thus, also the police force) has been infiltrated by mafia members (though you do not know how many). It is imperative that they be figured out and lynched. Each night, the mafia have an opportunity to kill one member of the town, and each day, there is an opportunity to lynch 1 player, in hopes that they are mafia.

    Mafia will know their fellow members (except as noted in the Traitor description), and may communicate with each other by PM.

    Mafia will win if they *outnumber* remaining townspersons (a game with equal members remaining on each team will still continue). Town will win if they eliminate all mafia.

    Some basic rules

    1. All communications must be in-thread, unless specifically permitted in role descriptions - no PM's, skype, etc.
    2. All votes must be posted in-thread, bolded, and in the format Vote: [player's name] before the listed KP time, in order to count. You may also change your vote, by posting Unvote (again, in bold) first.
    3. Any roles that have "specials" must PM me their actions prior to listed KP time, in order to count.
    4. "No lynch" votes are permitted at any time.
    5. KP (Kill Post) time is 9pm, Eastern Daylight time.
    6. Days in this round will last ~48 hours. We will see if that generates better activity and communication within each day.
    6. Any questions may be asked either in-thread or by PM'ing me.
    7. Role-claiming is NOT permitted - very subtle hints are allowed, but nothing obvious, or you will be auto-killed.
    8. The dead may not talk, but may [haunt] minimally, if it will not affect the game in any way.
    9. I hold the right to update/change rules at any time.

    Order of roles

    Lynch
    Role Block
    Kills
    Cop Investigations
    Doctor Save

    Potential Role List

    Village
    Role Blocker - may prevent 1 player each night from performing their normal action
    Doctor - may select 1 player each night to try and save
    Schitzo - will randomly either kill, role-block save, or investigate their target each night
    Role Cop - will receive the exact role of his target each night
    Cop Squad - The Cop Squad is a group of up to 4 players, each of whom will have different sanities (see below), but will not know which one they are. If they investigate someone outside their Squad, they will receive a Guilty or Innocent result, as appropriate, by the player investigated and their own sanity. If they investigate someone within their Squad, they will instead be told they've found a fellow Cop. From that point, Cops that have "found" each other may communicate with each other similar to a Mason group.
    Sane Cop - always receives accurate results
    Insane Cop - always receives inaccurate results
    Naive Cop - always receives Innocent results
    Paranoid Cop - always receives Guilty results
    Vanilla Townie - no special role

    Mafia
    Godfather - chooses who to send for the kill and who will be targeted
    Lawyer - may role-block one player each night
    Janitor - if sent for the kill, the players role is not revealed to anyone
    Goon - no special role
    Traitor Cop - this player is a Cop, and also a Mafia member, however he does not know who the Mafia are, nor do they know who he is (at least initially). He selects someone every night, and will receive the exact role of that player. Once he finds a Mafia member, he may start communicating with them directly, but then may only use his role every other night (starting 2 nights after he found the Mafia).

    Player List (4/10 remain)
    Vinit144
    Carni
    Seba
    Mouse-Keyboard
    (the dead)
    Sapient
    Wildfire8
    The Burninator
    Conundrum
    Rokchick
    vpindian91
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    All roles have been PM'ed. Please let me know if you didn't get one.

    Game on.

    First Cutoff (KP) will be 9pm Wednesday (just over 48 hours from now).

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    Vote: Seba
    Reason:
    Shortest name

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    This could be tricky.

    Vote: Burn

    Of course. Although I think I will add Sap to my list of defaults now, that should cover me.
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    Vote: Burn
    Reason: Mafia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapient View Post
    Vote: Burn
    Reason: Mafia
    Jeeze Sap, are you trying really hard to look like mafia this early? RVS says don't do this yet...

    Unvote:
    Vote: Sapient
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    Vote: NL

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    Aaaand this day 1 has been:

    a demonstration of why I hate 48 hour KPs. *Yawn*

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Burninator View Post
    Aaaand this day 1 has been:

    a demonstration of why I hate 48 hour KPs. *Yawn*
    If you want something, you have to give something as well. I agree first couple of days will be boring. But getting a chance to talk more is much better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vinit144 View Post
    If you want something, you have to give something as well. I agree first couple of days will be boring. But getting a chance to talk more is much better.
    24 hours is plenty of time to do the talking.

    Vote: Burn
    Reason: Mafia

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokchick View Post
    Jeeze Sap, are you trying really hard to look like mafia this early? RVS says don't do this yet...

    Unvote:
    Vote: Sapient
    I'm a little curious now, it looks like you're protecting Burn.

    You're also accusing me of Mafia even though you know of the little joke we were having. You're looking pretty suspicious.

    FoS: Rokchick
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    Uh, guys, you might want to not lynch me N1. JS.

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    Inb4 I get lynched and this is the last post before KP.

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    Wouldn't the same rules apply as last round, that it's more profitable to lynch someone than NL?
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Burninator View Post
    Uh, guys, you might want to not lynch me N1. JS.
    Also, it isn't like you said we shouldn't lynch you period, which would suggest you're an important town role. You only said N1, which means you're suggesting we should NL, yet as I started before, you have already proven it loses town a day and gives mafia an extra kill. Makes you wonder if you forgot what you calculated from less than a week ago, or you have a different agenda this round.
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    Assuming 2 mafia w/ N1 lynch: [ 9/2 7/2 5/2 3/2 Loss ] Nights: 3
    Assuming 2 mafia w/o N1 lynch: [ 9/2 8/2 6/2 4/2 2/2 Loss ] Nights: 4

    Assuming 3 mafia w/ N1 lynch: [ 8/3 6/3 4/3 Loss ] Nights: 2
    Assuming 3 mafia w/o N1 lynch: [ 8/3 7/3 5/3 3/3 Loss ] Nights: 3

    Based on the math it's better to not lynch night one this time around.

    Vote: No Lynch
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carni View Post
    Assuming 2 mafia w/ N1 lynch: [ 9/2 7/2 5/2 3/2 Loss ] Nights: 3
    Assuming 2 mafia w/o N1 lynch: [ 9/2 8/2 6/2 4/2 2/2 Loss ] Nights: 4

    Assuming 3 mafia w/ N1 lynch: [ 8/3 6/3 4/3 Loss ] Nights: 2
    Assuming 3 mafia w/o N1 lynch: [ 8/3 7/3 5/3 3/3 Loss ] Nights: 3

    Based on the math it's better to not lynch night one this time around.

    Vote: No Lynch
    You did the 3 mafia backwards. With no lynch, there is only 1 kill the first night, not two. You have them switched around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vinit144 View Post
    If you want something, you have to give something as well. I agree first couple of days will be boring. But getting a chance to talk more is much better.
    More importantly people aren't always around on the forums so having a long first day gives everyone a chance to realize game on and know to participate.
    Vote:NL
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    If I don't attack any WWs, can I take credit for the win?

    Trick question, of course I can. After all, here in the forum no rules apply. Folks just declare themselves the winner. Easier. No unpleasant bending.
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    Really, MK? Your name is a bit shorter than mine

    Vote: NL
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    Although if burn ******* one more time I'd be down to lynch him for ***** and giggles
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    If I don't attack any WWs, can I take credit for the win?

    Trick question, of course I can. After all, here in the forum no rules apply. Folks just declare themselves the winner. Easier. No unpleasant bending.
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    Pap is trying to do a wildfire with weird.

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    I may be reading in to this, but first Rok protects Burn over an obvious joke that she was present for and witnessed, then Burn comes up with contradictory logic from what he spouted when he was town last round, then Carni posts a support for his premise using numbers that are incorrect (thus negating the logic that we should NL on N1). And none of them directly reply to my posts, as if another is sent to make it look innocuous. Seems a little suspicious.

    I feel like there is a high enough probability that Burn or Rok is Mafia to outweigh any counterproductive issues with lynching on N1. And if Burn happens to be Mafia, then FoS: Carni. And I keep my FoS: Rok in place.

    Just my 2 cents.
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    In standard rounds, yes, the math matters. However, with this many roles (and the potential that we were told we are a role we actually aren't), we want people alive.

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    Where does it say we are possibly lied to about our roles?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapient View Post
    Where does it say we are possibly lied to about our roles?
    Umm, in the OP...
    Quote Originally Posted by jason_kroeker View Post
    Cop Squad - The Cop Squad is a group of up to 4 players, each of whom will have different sanities (see below), but will not know which one they are. If they investigate someone outside their Squad, they will receive a Guilty or Innocent result, as appropriate, by the player investigated and their own sanity. If they investigate someone within their Squad, they will instead be told they've found a fellow Cop. From that point, Cops that have "found" each other may communicate with each other similar to a Mason group.
    Sane Cop - always receives accurate results
    Insane Cop - always receives inaccurate results
    Naive Cop - always receives Innocent results
    Paranoid Cop - always receives Guilty results
    Vanilla Townie - no special role
    Eg, the math doesn't net us an extra night, but lynching a mason is a bad risk IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Burninator View Post
    Umm, in the OP...


    Eg, the math doesn't net us an extra night, but lynching a mason is a bad risk IMO.
    We weren't lied to about our roles, a role blocker isn't told he's a cop, or some other sort. A cop is cognizant that he may or may not get a correct result. That isn't some huge reveal.

    It sounds like you're grasping at straws, Burn. In the past, when you were town and on the chopping block, you whined of course, but you never put up this big of a fight trying to rationalize petty points and make them out to something more than they are. You stayed logical.

    Actually, now that I think of it, you told me the exact same thing last round when I was mafia. That I should mimic how I posted when I was town. When you're town, you're very quiet, rarely posting, and only with necessary information.

    Now you're posting flagrantly. I'm sure you're mafia. Thank you for giving my a 98% assurance on your guilt. May your head roll, ser.

    Burn is guilty! FoS: Rok. Possible FoS: Carni.
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    Umm, ok. I'm basically done with the incessant and increasingly obvious barbs, and don't want to deal with it for the rest of the round. I'm sorry I caught you last round.

    Unvote: NL
    Vote: Sapient
    Reason: Whether he's town or mafia, he's being obnoxious as hell, which is harmful regardless of his alignment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seba View Post
    Really, MK? Your name is a bit shorter than mine

    Vote: NL
    My name is Mouse-Keyboard though

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Burninator View Post
    Umm, ok. I'm basically done with the incessant and increasingly obvious barbs, and don't want to deal with it for the rest of the round. I'm sorry I caught you last round.

    Unvote: NL
    Vote: Sapient
    Reason: Whether he's town or mafia, he's being obnoxious as hell, which is harmful regardless of his alignment.
    The first post was a joking vote. Your and Rok's response piqued my interest.

    She immediately changed her vote to me and now so have you.

    You are both guilty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapient View Post
    The first post was a joking vote. Your and Rok's response piqued my interest.

    She immediately changed her vote to me and now so have you.

    You are both guilty.
    OOH I really do have another constant vote target, for much the same reason I pick on Burn. It gets results!!

    Sappy dear, even on night one trying not to go for NL, it is much better to try for a tie between as many as possible rather than lock a vote in. With only 2 mafs, they can usually swing it away from themselves if need be.
    But anyway, I thought the game was 1. Pick on Burn again to p... him off, 2. take it off him.
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    Honey, in the past, when you are mafia, you vote for another mafia member so later you can use it to claim innocence. You did the same with me last round.

    As soon as Burn got actual votes, you got flustered and went on Burn's Defense, which you also try to do coyly when you're mafia, but it's pretty obvious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapient View Post
    Honey, in the past, when you are mafia, you vote for another mafia member so later you can use it to claim innocence. You did the same with me last round.

    As soon as Burn got actual votes, you got flustered and went on Burn's Defense, which you also try to do coyly when you're mafia, but it's pretty obvious.
    Flustered? On N1? Nah, even if you AND someone else voted for Burn, there should be enough others to NL him out of it. It's more along the lines (like last time when I was mafia!) I don't want to be the one who starts a train of any sort that might go runaway. Well, I do, but mostly just to see who jumps on it .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokchick View Post
    Flustered? On N1? Nah, even if you AND someone else voted for Burn, there should be enough others to NL him out of it. It's more along the lines (like last time when I was mafia!) I don't want to be the one who starts a train of any sort that might go runaway. Well, I do, but mostly just to see who jumps on it .
    Except when's it's a train on another mafia member, like you derailing that one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapient View Post
    We weren't lied to about our roles, a role blocker isn't told he's a cop, or some other sort. A cop is cognizant that he may or may not get a correct result. That isn't some huge reveal.
    Sap: "People weren't lied to about their roles, they were just told they were a role that they aren't really playing."

    I'm glad you bothered chiming in.
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    It sounds like you're grasping at straws, Burn.
    Irony added. I mean emphasis. I get the two confused sometimes.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sapient View Post
    In the past, when you were town and on the chopping block, you whined of course, but you never put up this big of a fight trying to rationalize petty points and make them out to something more than they are. You stayed logical.
    Please explain how this night is different from all other nights. I mean, as a veteran mafia player who can talk to me about "in the past," please explain. Tell me more about how I'm irrational.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sapient View Post
    Actually, now that I think of it, you told me the exact same thing last round when I was mafia. That I should mimic how I posted when I was town. When you're town, you're very quiet, rarely posting, and only with necessary information.
    Case in point. Veteran mafia player Sap strikes again. Guys vote for me. I only post pointless posts when I'm mafia. I post srs when I'm town. For example, here's a round when I was town:
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    And look at my serious posts:
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    I agree that jk is acutie <3
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    Dammit, I lost my fan vote :'(
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    All this is, of course, beside the point. Sap is playing VI, Rok is a random bystander, I'm fairly obviously town, and as a result, (1) everyone is being distracted by Sap trolling (me), and (2) no one else is bothering to post, and (3) therefore no one is even remotely close to anything that might be considered "scum hunting."

    This is why I hate 17 day KPs. No one posts until the end anyway. As a result, I have to sit through days of Sap posting inflammatory bull**** that is an obvious (and successful) attempt to piss me off.

    Can someone else please post?
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    Now you're posting flagrantly. I'm sure you're mafia. Thank you for giving my a 98% assurance on your guilt. May your head roll, ser.
    Burn never posts flagrantly. Not like... every damn round he plays.

    But in any case, this is the last time I'm bothering to talk to Sap. Can someone else please post?

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    EBWOP: For future reference, if you're 98% sure about something, that means if you took a list of 100 things you are 98% sure about, you'd expect only 2 of them to be incorrect. Given that I can say with 100% certainty that 1 out of the 1 things you've said are on this list is incorrect, I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that either you haven't a clue what probability is, or you've drunk deeply of your own kool aid and actually think you're not full of **** and are a half-intelligent adjunct to this conversation.

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    You seem pretty pissed off, but that wasn't my attempt. Honestly, I think you are. And you have never put in that much effort to not be the N1 lynch.

    The most you'll do is ***** and whine. But I have to congratulate you on the character of lashing out when someone gets close to uncovering you and your life is on the line.
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    Burn y are you being so *****-y. Eat a snickers

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    Everyone vote burn he's clearly mafia EXPLAIN THE RAGE???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conundrum View Post
    Everyone vote burn he's clearly mafia EXPLAIN THE RAGE???
    This.

    Whatever though. I'm just gonna have JK replace me with whoever dies tonight. I don't feel like dealing with being trolled in a 48h kp round.

    Good luck to the remainder of the town.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Burninator View Post
    This.

    Whatever though. I'm just gonna have JK replace me with whoever dies tonight. I don't feel like dealing with being trolled in a 48h kp round.

    Good luck to the remainder of the town.
    Jesus Burn. Nobody is trolling you - stop taking everything so seriously, it's day 1 and nobody has anything to go on. No lynch is obviously going to be the lynch. Buck up and stop being a lil *****.

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