Mafia Game Thread

[Scarecrow]

Vote: Wildfire

[Sapient]

Always have to cause trouble, don't you? What you see as 2 and 3 are just fleshing out 1. But that is just all the first.

I don't cause trouble.

[Flossie Schmumpus]

Flossie's Handy Dandy 100 % Always Correct Mafia Analysis.

Sapient-- Mafia code name for the knowing one...this guy keeps archives of all the information the mafia has gathered and then uses it for blackmail
Rokchick--the Ice fence for the mafia, she handles the spoils from the mafia heists.
Scarecrow--Mafia code name for the enforcer, you disobey mafia rules....you will be getting a visit from Scare.
Mbstokem--Mafia bean counter, he knows how to cook the books
J_K--Mafia hit man, if you do not pay the protection money...you will be visited.
Seba--up and coming mafia don who got killed in a power struggle
Vinit--Mafia safe specialist, he is the go to man for when the mafia need to have codes cracked
Wildfire--Mafia numbers runner
Blazin--Mafia smuggler
Vpin--Mafia underling looking to rise to the top
Flossie--poor hapless townie stuck in a town full of mafiosos.

[Flossie Schmumpus]

Mb and Scare, do you have any reasons for your votes

[The Blazin1]

Vote: Scarecrow part Duex.

[mbstokem]

Mb and Scare, do you have any reasons for your votes

Do I ever? I was rb'd anyway so even if I could've had more insight I don't.

[jason_kroeker]

I don't cause trouble.

Well, we all know that isn't true. Oh well.

Flossie's Handy Dandy 100 % Always Correct Mafia Analysis.

Sapient-- Mafia code name for the knowing one...this guy keeps archives of all the information the mafia has gathered and then uses it for blackmail
Rokchick--the Ice fence for the mafia, she handles the spoils from the mafia heists.
Scarecrow--Mafia code name for the enforcer, you disobey mafia rules....you will be getting a visit from Scare.
Mbstokem--Mafia bean counter, he knows how to cook the books
J_K--Mafia hit man, if you do not pay the protection money...you will be visited.
Seba--up and coming mafia don who got killed in a power struggle
Vinit--Mafia safe specialist, he is the go to man for when the mafia need to have codes cracked
Wildfire--Mafia numbers runner
Blazin--Mafia smuggler
Vpin--Mafia underling looking to rise to the top
Flossie--poor hapless townie stuck in a town full of mafiosos.

Flossie, why do Scare and I seem to have the same role?

Also,
Unvote: if I had one
Vote: Rok
Reason: no idea. Just for fun, I guess?

[Flossie Schmumpus]

Do I ever? I was rb'd anyway so even if I could've had more insight I don't.

Hope springs eternal, you could have shocked us all and actually had a reason.

Flossie, why do Scare and I seem to have the same role?

Scare for the internal mafia affairs, you are for the population at large.

[Flossie Schmumpus]

vote: Rokchick

Reason: It makes it a three way tie and might as well leave the lynch up to random.org. I have nothing on anyone.

[Scarecrow]

Mb and Scare, do you have any reasons for your votes

Yes. Will I share it at this point in time? No.

[Flossie Schmumpus]

Hmmm.

[Sapient]

Seriously though, we should vote Jason, guys. He's totally mafia.

[Conundrum]

2 questions for our wonderful host:

Can you tell us which roles will appear in KP's? (Obviously RB'ers do, but without distinction of which RB'er it is). For example, would Doc always appear, or only if save was successful? Would Bus Driver switch appear? Etc.

And what is the role called ??????? all about?

Doctor, Lawyer, Stalker.

?????? says "Hidden Role" next to it, not much more to say about it.

[Conundrum]

Vote count:

Sapient: Vinit, Rokchick

Scarecrow: Mbstokem, Blazin

Rokchick: J_K, Flossie

J_K: Sapient

Wildfire: Scarecrow



KP #2

Scarecrow was lynched and was the Bus Driver.

Vpindian was killed by the Godfather and was a Townie.

Mbstokem was roleblocked.

[mbstokem]

Can I not be rb'd every night? Kthx

[Scarecrow]

....

[jason_kroeker]

Well, we may be down to 8 players with presumably 3 Mafia still (based on 11 starting, 3 is the logical guess), but I think we are starting to get into a very good position here. For roles, the 2 losses last night was probably the least harmful - could have been worse.

But we now also know mb isn't the Godfather (as well as not being the Janitor based on N1). He is as close to conf-Town as we have right now.

I would also believe Sap and Rok are less likely to be Mafia than other people still alive. I'm not as certain of this, but since they were left as tied in the votes, the opportunity was there for fellow Mafia to push someone else ahead, which didn't happen. Could have been that other Mafia weren't online at the right time to swing the votes, but for now I will say they are "more clear".

So if we don't get any other useful information, we would be best to follow the lead of mb, Rok, or Sap - these three are least likely to be Mafia leading us astray on our votes. Last night, mb's vote was wrong, Rok voted Sap which seems like the wrong way to follow (see above), and Sap voted me (and I know he's wrong), so these aren't water-tight plans, but just playing the odds.

We also have our dead people's votes to look at. Scare and vp were both Town. vp didn't vote, but Scare cast an unbiased (i.e. not Mafia-influenced) vote for Wild. So based on last night's votes, Wild would be the best choice to vote at this point (voted for by conf-Town). I would be the 2nd best choice (an assumed-Town voted me).

But let's see who mb, Rok, and Sap want to vote for today... and if any other info comes into play.

[Rokchick]

Makes sense. Although it could as easily be others. You are reading townish.
No additional info from me today.

Lets' see.

Vote: Wildfire

[Sapient]

First of all, it doesn't say whether mb was roleblocked by mafia or by town, or mafia could be roleblocking one of their own to claim innocence, at this point we don't know.

Scarecrow gave no reason as to why he voted for Wildfire, I believe it was a shot in the dark, or a throwaway vote more than a FoS.

Also, since you're jumping on the bandwagon with so little to go on, you look a little more suspicious. FoS: Jason

[jason_kroeker]

Sap, did you read my post? I admit there is nothing conclusive. It's going purely on the 'odds'. However, we know mb isn't Godfather or Janitor. Pretty good odds, I'd say. If RB is from Mafia, he couldn't RB himself (as that would be the only role he could have, since there wouldn't be 4 Mafia). But you are right, in that we don't know the alignment of the RB'er.

Also, Scare's vote was quite likely blind and a throw-away. But if we need to bandwagon on someone, I'd rather not follow the lead of someone like Vinit or Blazin (both of whom could quite possibly be Mafia, based on the almost-no-info we still have). I'd rather follow a blind vote of Scare (who was Town), mb (who is probably Town), you (who have a slightly greater than average chance of being Town, IMO), etc.

But your history makes me not want to follow you (not based on you voting me yesterday, but based on your accuracy in past games).

So for now, I ask "what says mb?"

[jason_kroeker]

To clarify why I'd rather follow Scare than Blazin, for those who don't follow the logic yet:

Scare is unbiased. He knows nothing about people's roles. He has/had a 3/8 chance (38%) of blindly voting Mafia.
Blazin could be Mafia. If he is, following his lead gives us 0% chance of voting out Mafia next. If he is an unbiased Town, he has the same 38% chance of blindly leading us to vote out Mafia.

So if we have no other choice, who would you rather follow? Someone with a 38% chance of being right? Or someone who is giving us "either 0% or 38% chance" of being right?

[Sapient]

I'm 100% sure you're mafia though.

Vote: Jason_K

[Rokchick]

Sap, I'm running with history here and saying I'm pretty sure you saying that is meaningless?
If you actually know, rather than doing your usual useless rambling, give a hint. otherwise, I'm going with JK is more likely to be town than you at this stage. I'm sure about that!

[mbstokem]

Imma have to ignore Sap until he posts proof or something.

Vote: wild

As for being rb'd, depending on how Conun has it set up, I'm only proven to not be the janitor.

[Sapient]

Sap, I'm running with history here and saying I'm pretty sure you saying that is meaningless?
If you actually know, rather than doing your usual useless rambling, give a hint. otherwise, I'm going with JK is more likely to be town than you at this stage. I'm sure about that!

There is no doubt here, trust me. Jason is mafia.

[The Blazin1]

Why wild? Any reason? We are getting crushed here.

[Conundrum]

I'm going to replace Wild if he isn't lynched tonight.

[Rokchick]

OK, so Wild is AWOL and can't be the godfather (or at the very least one of the maf). That changes the odds.

unvote:
vote: Flossie

(no real reason tbh)

Jason, if you have anything solid to back your "sap might be town" spit it out. Sap is acting like either an idiot (most likely again), a cop with a result or mafia. And I seriously doubt the cop option.

[Sapient]

OK, so Wild is AWOL and can't be the godfather (or at the very least one of the maf). That changes the odds.

unvote:
vote: Flossie

(no real reason tbh)

Jason, if you have anything solid to back your "sap might be town" spit it out. Sap is acting like either an idiot (most likely again), a cop with a result or mafia. And I seriously doubt the cop option.

Flossie works, she's also Mafia.

Unvote: Jason_K

Vote: Flossie.

[Sapient]

I would ask the doctor to save me, but I identified 2 of the 3 mafia members, the only being left is the Godfather, of which I'm not sure how to identify.

Though, if the doctor would like to use his/her special on me tonight, that'd be appreciated. Lawyer should roleblock Jason.

[mbstokem]

Unvote:vote: Flossie

[The Blazin1]

Sap went from being sure it was JK, to flipping to flossie, now saying he has two out of three figured out? That IS suspicious.
Vote: Sap
I'm not buying it.

[Flossie Schmumpus]

OK, so Wild is AWOL and can't be the godfather (or at the very least one of the maf). That changes the odds.

unvote:
vote: Flossie

(no real reason tbh)

Jason, if you have anything solid to back your "sap might be town" spit it out. Sap is acting like either an idiot (most likely again), a cop with a result or mafia. And I seriously doubt the cop option.

Wildfire can easily be the janitor, he doesn't need to be active to be sent on the kill.

Sap....why do you think I am mafia? Is it because I would not talk to you about mafia on skype? YOu know town and indies cannot talk about mafia outside of this thread. Perhaps we have been looking at this all wrong...

Scare did something so that he thought wildfire was mafia....this is still the most trustworthy lead we have.

vote: wild

[mbstokem]

Scare was the bus driver, he was going purely off gut.

[Vinit144]

vote: Flossie
I'd rather believe Sap at this point rather than Jason.

[Sapient]

Sap went from being sure it was JK, to flipping to flossie, now saying he has two out of three figured out? That IS suspicious.
Vote: Sap
I'm not buying it.

Do you have a reason to suspect that in two nights I can't have two confirmed mafia? Or are you trying to protect your ilk? No one is stepping forward to offer proof that I'm full of ****.

[Conundrum]

Wildfire has been replaced with Seba

[The Blazin1]

Do you have a reason to suspect that in two nights I can't have two confirmed mafia? Or are you trying to protect your ilk? No one is stepping forward to offer proof that I'm full of ****.

I find it odd that after two nights, you were only sure about JK, now you are "sure" about flossie. You never mentioned Flossie until people started looking at you, then you appeared to jump on the Flossie bandwagon, suddenly claiming she was mafia too. Now look at you, accusing me of protecting my "own" for being suspicious of you. My vote stands.

[The Blazin1]

I also so find it odd, that both nights you just happened to target mafia. Investigate me tonight then.

[Sapient]

I find it odd that after two nights, you were only sure about JK, now you are "sure" about flossie. You never mentioned Flossie until people started looking at you, then you appeared to jump on the Flossie bandwagon, suddenly claiming she was mafia too. Now look at you, accusing me of protecting my "own" for being suspicious of you. My vote stands.

His Royal Highness was very slow with his PMs, coincidence merely.

I also so find it odd, that both nights you just happened to target mafia. Investigate me tonight then.

I guess I got lucky. You'll see when Flossie comes back guilty.