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    Default Weekly Alliance Analysis - RAIDERS

    Since Pylus is late with his weekly alliance analysis, I decided to help this one time.

    I picked Raiders as I find them personally most annoying.

    So here goes the second Analysis - RAIDERS.

    Members: 30
    AVG Pop: 1441
    Location: Mainly NE
    Confeds/Naps: Zion
    Top Robbers, Top Attackers

    Analysis:

    What I like most about Raiders is that they do not have obviously weak accounts. Even the bottom 3-4 looks rather active. They were picky recruiters, which paid off. The group was started by 2 top raiders who eventually attracted other elite offensive players. After merging with G (Knights) they added some much needed anvils. But they picked only better G players.
    If the "political" situation on the server remained unchanged, IMO it would be Raiders and TA fighting to dominate the server. With Raiders having more troops and TA more experience. Just my guess.

    What is interesting about Raiders - 10 out of 30 accounts are located in "remote" areas - Newbie, Bacchus, Seanthomas, Geishir, Nightshade, DanielD, Mameeta, Gijoe1979, Brexit and Refuge. Why it matters? Because these account have limited usefulness till the endgame.
    Moreover, additional 3 accounts are located in the "enemy" theritory - TsuGhoul, *** and Adream. 2 of them are recent/former leadership. They MAY have short lives on this server.

    With these 3 accounts out of the way and 10 in the boonies, Raiders are left with 17 accounts capable of engaging in cross quad wars.

    IMO the greatest weakness of Raiders was an emotional and inexperienced leadership. They recruited some great hammers and instead of keeping them safe early in the game, they got into "war" with TA. Whatever the justification for the "war" was - it was an irresponsible decision.

    Now, ever ally has it's leader, or other player who keeps all group members engaged. I call this person "glue", for lack of better term. Raiders are losing its "glue" as one of ADREAM players is quitting.
    Not sure if the new leadership has any glueing capabilities. Time will tell.

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    Wait.. that was a real war declaration?
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    It's what I would do if I didn't have to keep mine exactly how it is for madsquirrels and erazer.

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    TL;dr
    S1R8 ~ Kal El - Win!
    S2R7 ~ MaTaJuAnEs - Loss! / S2R8 ~ iIRiTAtOr
    S3R8 ~ LordDeath - Win! / S3R9 ~ LordDeath
    S5R8 ~ LordDeath - Win!
    S19R1 ~ Goosebumps - Win! / S19R2 ~ Hulk - Win!
    Travian Tourny Qualifier ~ Ganja Gang


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    And just to be clear, I don't care how many servers you delete on. It's just not that important to me anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lorddeath View Post
    tl;can'tread
    ftfy
    Quote Originally Posted by Baron D'Holbach View Post
    You should quote yourself. It's like liking your Facebook status or high-fiving yourself in the mirror.

    It's what I would do if I didn't have to keep mine exactly how it is for madsquirrels and erazer.

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    Thanks for the analysis.

    Thoughts on Raiders and Zion though? Zion seem to have experienced leaders (or at least people I have seen lead before, not sure how well it worked out in all the past servers).

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    They both suck.
    Quote Originally Posted by Baron D'Holbach View Post
    You should quote yourself. It's like liking your Facebook status or high-fiving yourself in the mirror.

    It's what I would do if I didn't have to keep mine exactly how it is for madsquirrels and erazer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Blazin1 View Post
    They both suck.
    I was literally just going to say this. They are both weak and lack leadership.


    Plus by the look of things, there is quite a few Zion players just outside of the grey on the eastern side there. Are they planning to take a WW?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Blazin1 View Post
    ftfy
    I see what you did there, sneaky *******!
    S1R8 ~ Kal El - Win!
    S2R7 ~ MaTaJuAnEs - Loss! / S2R8 ~ iIRiTAtOr
    S3R8 ~ LordDeath - Win! / S3R9 ~ LordDeath
    S5R8 ~ LordDeath - Win!
    S19R1 ~ Goosebumps - Win! / S19R2 ~ Hulk - Win!
    Travian Tourny Qualifier ~ Ganja Gang


    Quote Originally Posted by Spider01 View Post
    And just to be clear, I don't care how many servers you delete on. It's just not that important to me anymore.

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    Thanks on the anal!

    Honestly I was late for a reason, and didn't do one last week because I wanted to see some evolution first. With only a handful of allies to choose to analyze it was difficult, especially as I watched my ally surpass Raiders as per robbing quota per day and a war declaration. I wanted to see a few hammers and reports first, which I did and was actually quite unimpressed. I was going to put raiders and TA off for another week or 2, but then the only notable allies left to analyze were Zion and ktk and possibly a few smallers.

    Prior to some little cat fights I was kind of impressed with Raiders but the confed with Zion forced me to lose all kinds of respect for them. TA and Raiders made an interesting war, probably the only one worth watching on this server really. With Zion trimming some fat, merging the 2 for a solid 60-man will probably be the best route I see with them, and possibly keeping some expendable accts untagged for the time being.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pylus View Post
    Thanks on the anal!

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    Who knew Pylus got down like that.
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    You should quote yourself. It's like liking your Facebook status or high-fiving yourself in the mirror.

    It's what I would do if I didn't have to keep mine exactly how it is for madsquirrels and erazer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Blazin1 View Post
    Who knew Pylus got down like that.

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    Speaking of KtK, I. Have reason to believe they smooching INQ.
    Quote Originally Posted by Baron D'Holbach View Post
    You should quote yourself. It's like liking your Facebook status or high-fiving yourself in the mirror.

    It's what I would do if I didn't have to keep mine exactly how it is for madsquirrels and erazer.

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    I did the analysis as the forum became very quiet for a 3-4 days.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pylus View Post
    Prior to some little cat fights I was kind of impressed with Raiders but the confed with Zion forced me to lose all kinds of respect for them.
    Same here. IMO it shows that I the leadership feels insecure.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pylus View Post
    TA and Raiders made an interesting war, probably the only one worth watching on this server really.
    Why is TA splitting apart? They could not stay together as one, big, dysfunctional family for 2-3 months? So many opportunities for backstabbing and talking s..t about other alliances will be lost...

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    No other competitors on the server, sadly, we had to fight each other.
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    You should quote yourself. It's like liking your Facebook status or high-fiving yourself in the mirror.

    It's what I would do if I didn't have to keep mine exactly how it is for madsquirrels and erazer.

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    It was an awesome thing to see.

    Edit: In fact, I burned a tray of cookies watching.

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    So... How many hammers above 10,000?
    (Just want to guess how far behind I am).

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    10,000? After 50 days that's your goal? Well behind us.
    Quote Originally Posted by Baron D'Holbach View Post
    You should quote yourself. It's like liking your Facebook status or high-fiving yourself in the mirror.

    It's what I would do if I didn't have to keep mine exactly how it is for madsquirrels and erazer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Blazin1 View Post
    10,000? After 50 days that's your goal? Well behind us.
    Where did I say it was my GOAL?
    I always tell people I am their farm. I know my place in this game, lol.
    Last edited by CatManDo; 08-19-2016 at 05:29 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CatManDo View Post
    Where did I say it was my GOAL?
    I always tell people I am their farm. I know my place in this game, lol.
    Igm me your coords?

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    You aren't safe, the mods are looking for you.
    Quote Originally Posted by Baron D'Holbach View Post
    You should quote yourself. It's like liking your Facebook status or high-fiving yourself in the mirror.

    It's what I would do if I didn't have to keep mine exactly how it is for madsquirrels and erazer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cisalpine View Post
    Igm me your coords?
    Sent.

    Back to the topic for a moment.

    How many Raiders actually raid? Only Brexit in top 10.
    Average raiding per member this week so far:

    1. COMA - 614k
    2. ET - 440k
    3. RAIDERS - 261k
    4. Zion - 172k
    5. SHINASTY - 116k

    So adream is gone. Sandman gone. Why they still call themselves Raiders?
    Last edited by CatManDo; 08-21-2016 at 06:21 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CatManDo View Post
    Sent.
    Ahhh man. Now I'm gonna have everyone bugging me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cisalpine View Post
    Ahhh man. Now I'm gonna have everyone bugging me!
    Oooooohhhh Cis.... tell me, tell me

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    Quote Originally Posted by CatManDo View Post
    Why is TA splitting apart? They could not stay together as one, big, dysfunctional family for 2-3 months? So many opportunities for backstabbing and talking s..t about other alliances will be lost...
    Had to throw a curve ball out there somewhere. We can't be getting all boring and stuff now its only 2 months in..

    Quote Originally Posted by CatManDo View Post
    So... How many hammers above 10,000?
    (Just want to guess how far behind I am).
    In all honesty, I started a month late and I am in that ballpark somewhere and feel I am waaaay behind, although I look at the other 75 active accounts on the server and then wonder exactly what I am behind.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Blazin1 View Post
    10,000? After 50 days that's your goal? Well behind us.
    Everyone is behind you Blazin :P

    Quote Originally Posted by Drystan View Post
    I think I am safe here, was up bros?
    Of course your safe here Dryskin, you don't have an account for us to blow up here.

    Quote Originally Posted by CatManDo View Post
    How many Raiders actually raid? Only Brexit in top 10.
    Average raiding per member this week so far:

    1. COMA - 614k
    2. ET - 440k
    3. RAIDERS - 261k
    4. Zion - 172k
    5. SHINASTY - 116k

    So adream is gone. Sandman gone. Why they still call themselves Raiders?
    Good question, although to their defense the #10 robber ally is 280k for the week thus far, so if Raiders members average raiding is 260k..., even on a **** server they are considered as top raiders.

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