Mafia Changes

[Valynor]

I think we should have a thread to discuss changes to mafia rules. Kerzi, don't worry about this. If we decide to change anything, I'll implement it in my round first to test it so you don't have to worry about it.

Two things I'd like to discuss: Roleclaiming, and investigative roles. In particular for the latter, should we continue using them the way they are? Since we usually have only 2 mafia members, they tend to be overpowered against the normal mafia and then useless against the godfather entirely. Thoughts?

[Mouse-Keyboard]

No investigative roles for anyone!

[Scarecrow]

This is why I try and make roleclaiming a non-factor when I build my rounds. I.e. good luck role claiming in role madness rounds.

[The Burninator]

I think the following:
1) if you have a detective also have an insane detective.
2) have a Miller
3) do what I do and disallow hard roleclaiming.

[Valynor]

I think the following:
1) if you have a detective also have an insane detective.
2) have a Miller
3) do what I do and disallow hard roleclaiming.

Its not like soft roleclaiming is any different. You can be stupidly obvious without hard claiming.

[Mouse-Keyboard]

Its not like soft roleclaiming is any different. You can be stupidly obvious without hard claiming.

You could do what Scarecrow did and add a wolf or two.

[Scarecrow]

Don't even need to add a wolf but add that it is a possible role within the round.
Slip them in every now and again and people will quickly cotton on and change how they play.

[The Burninator]

Its not like soft roleclaiming is any different. You can be stupidly obvious without hard claiming.

True but some will still miss it.

And people bother doing so less even though it doesn't change their actual ability to claim much.

[Valynor]

Don't even need to add a wolf but add that it is a possible role within the round.
Slip them in every now and again and people will quickly cotton on and change how they play.

That's actually really good. You dont always need wolves then, but it makes the fear of roleclaiming significant.

[Eric Rasputin]

That's actually really good. You dont always need wolves then, but it makes the fear of roleclaiming significant.

Agreed. In the recent rounds, SC was the only one to add a wolf right?

[Scarecrow]

I believe TB has also used wolves in his rounds.
Either way, they are a nifty role.

[mbstokem]

I think the following:
1) if you have a detective also have an insane detective.
2) have a Miller
3) do what I do and disallow hard roleclaiming.

I only like the first option. Other than that, what we talked about with the trackers is the only other viable option I can see with the current number of people we have.

[Rokchick]

Its not like soft roleclaiming is any different. You can be stupidly obvious without hard claiming.

There's.Very little difference between hard and soft claiming. But not being able to soft claim makes it pretty hard for anyone to pass real information on. And it's pretty hard to enforce too. How soft is soft?