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    I recognize that there is little to go on so far, Burn, but those 'reasons' are really stretching. I am not mafia...can you say the same?

    I think you might be. However, I am more suspicious at this time of another. KP was delayed because of inactivity. Going to guess that role was very important. Like godfather important. And there was only one not playing:

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    If that's the case wouldn't there have been no mafia kill (since Tarheels has not been active at all)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ECH0 View Post
    If that's the case wouldn't there have been no mafia kill (since Tarheels has not been active at all)?
    Unless Eric gave up waiting and switched the mafia roles around so that am active person could send in a kill.

    I dunno. We really don't have a lot to work with, since there's little conversation and the KP gave no clues. Eric waiting for, perhaps, a mafia kill order was the only thing that jumped out at me as a possibility.
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    The only other people on my (weak assed) radar right now are Burns and Mullion. Both chose to not let random take its course night 1. I would give Meg (Mullion) a pass on that, but she also made one post saying she wanted to vote for someone who had not been voted for, then turned around and tied SC's vote by voting for Floss. Could be what Burns said: she was trying to save SC because he's mafia. Could be...but SC didn't try to save himself by coming back to change his vote and create his own tie. I would think he would watch closely, if he was indeed mafia.
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    With the emphasis on specials from Eric, I will assume that mostly everyone, if not everyone will have roles.
    The idea that possibly not everyone sending in roles leads me to postulate there are some more 'dangerous roles' (I.e. vigilante or the like). Alternatively, people could be choosing to hide n1 not knowing if their special will be shown in the kp (if you're town, probably a better idea to have yourself shown in the kp as it provides something that can be tracked).

    That said, the kp was overly simplistic for so many roles.

    I'd estimate either 2 or 3 mafia due to game balance depending on the exact roles in play.

    Considering role claiming is allowed, I wonder if there is a negative feedback dynamic for doing so. I.e. wolves or people who have to correctly guess player roles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerzi View Post
    The only other people on my (weak assed) radar right now are Burns and Mullion. Both chose to not let random take its course night 1. I would give Meg (Mullion) a pass on that, but she also made one post saying she wanted to vote for someone who had not been voted for, then turned around and tied SC's vote by voting for Floss. Could be what Burns said: she was trying to save SC because he's mafia. Could be...but SC didn't try to save himself by coming back to change his vote and create his own tie. I would think he would watch closely, if he was indeed mafia.
    I'm going to grab my tinfoil hat real quick here but one could assume that if SC and Mullion are mafia that SC told Mullion to tie the vote.

    Not much to go on though.

    Anyways, I know what FOS and MFOS is but what is LFOS?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ECH0 View Post
    I'm going to grab my tinfoil hat real quick here but one could assume that if SC and Mullion are mafia that SC told Mullion to tie the vote.

    Not much to go on though.

    Anyways, I know what FOS and MFOS is but what is LFOS?
    Yeah, it could be SC and Mullion too. Burns said that already, so I just posted the alternatives. Could be either of the with Mullion. Or not

    And I have no idea what that acronym means either. Little finger of suspicion, maybe?
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    Generally it stands for Large finger of suspicion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow View Post
    Generally it stands for Large finger of suspicion.
    Actually it's little finger of suspicion, large would be MFOS.

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    Large is a middle finger?

    In any case, this conversation really does not add value to the round or make our jobs any easier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow View Post
    Large is a middle finger?

    In any case, this conversation really does not add value to the round or make our jobs any easier.
    I think it adds plenty of value.
    PFOS at SC
    MFOS at Ech0
    RFOS at Meg
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    We are attempting to divulge for much suspicion TB is casting.

    I'm going to DFOS: SC for attempting to distract us from this vital conversation.
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    Obviously my reasons are stretching -- there's little to go on and I hoped to start discussion. Those of you who have voted for me will regret your response to a discussion-starter when you see my role.

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    EBWOP -- note that the people voting for me are exactly the same people I FoS'd ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Burninator View Post
    EBWOP -- note that the people voting for me are exactly the same people I FoS'd ...
    People? Of the people you mentioned in that post, only MK has voted for you.
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    And just to clarify: Are we all assuming that once the stated KP time comes and goes that no new votes can be added/changed? very few have voted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerzi View Post
    People? Of the people you mentioned in that post, only MK has voted for you.
    True. To be fair, that's like 50% of the voting public...

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    Vote: Tarheels
    Reason: Self-preservation / don't want to get lynched with 2 votes while there are 8 players...

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    There has been very little to go off of.
    I currently don't have a read on anyone and would instead prefer to try split the vote.

    Vote: ECH0

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    Split the vote...?
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    I.e. Have several people up for lynch and see what happens.
    At least then we can look at voting patterns.

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    Is this because I DFOSed you?

    Vote:SC
    Reason: He told me to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ECH0 View Post
    Is this because I DFOSed you?
    Partly.
    Also partly because I don't think what is being thrown around as voting reasons passes scrutiny on either Burn or Tar.

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    Unvote: Ech0
    Vote: Tarheels
    Come to the realisation that I would rather an inactive go over an active participant.

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    I am town.

    As for tarheels, no read, but unless someone removes a vote from me I need to stay on Tar to keep it 50/50.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow View Post
    Unvote: Ech0
    Vote: Tarheels
    Come to the realisation that I would rather an inactive go over an active participant.
    This is the main reason I left my vote on him. There's simply nothing else to sink teeth into at this time.
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    Alright. You guys are not going to like this. Unfortunately, Tarheels has requested to be removed.

    Tarheels has been removed and was the Godfather. The Godfather has been switched.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Burninator View Post
    I am town.

    As for tarheels, no read, but unless someone removes a vote from me I need to stay on Tar to keep it 50/50.
    unvote: vote: SC
    reason: wants to leave the lynching up to fate rather than the voice of the people.

    There burn, you can change your vote. Voting out an inactive is a waste.
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    Oops just read. Good guess on Tarheels, all.
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    Kerzi, Burn and myself are more or less confirmed town now.

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    Well done (not that you killed him—that was the inactivity—but the deduction).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow View Post
    Kerzi, Burn and myself are more or less confirmed town now.
    Voting against an inactive godfather would be a risky move for the mafia, for sure.

    Well, Ech0, do you want to reveal to them that we're the mafia, or should I?

    We would have won if it weren't for these meddling kids.
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    Convenient how SC is able to confirm that he is town.
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    Hm. Decisions, decisions.

    As per usual, I am confused. Normal state of mind, especially when sending attacks as anyone who has played Travian on the same team as me can testify. Most of those blunders have been committed by me at some point or another.

    So, who do I vote for? The analysis went around in circles, and I was going to vote for Tarheels on the basis that Kerzi was voting for him. But now they have pulled out, I am stuck again.

    So, the patented decision making tool has been pulled out. Just to take away some of the confusion running around inside my brain and upsetting the pea that is in there.

    Vote: Gibby

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    Ok, so

    KP 1:
    Flossie - detective [voted by Echo then mullion]
    Rok - doc

    Update:
    Tarheels - Godfather. [Votes on were Kerzi, Burn, then SC -- SC says this basically conftowns the three of us, but place in the train matters; I can explain why only Kerzi and SC should be considered conftown after the round. Doesn't matter; I'm town.)

    What I think of the remaining players --

    ECH0 - Scummy (due to inane posting)
    Mouse Keyboard - Scummy (due to failcake logic votes for me + me knowing I'm town)
    The Burninator - Town (due to role PM)
    Scarecrow - Town (due to tarheels vote)
    Gibby - No read (Some inane posting but less than Echo)
    Mullion - Scummy (due to new player + posts only to vote syndrome, aka "under the radar" playing)
    Kerzi - Town (due to tarheels train start)

    Based on behavior, MK still reads scummy to me, but apparently he has not tripped the scum detectors of SC or Kerzi (and I brought it up earlier, so) --
    Vote: Mullion

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    I agree with most of your analysis, Burn.

    I didn't want to admit to stalking Ech0's online status earlier, but, meh. When Eric posted that the first KP would be delayed due to inactivity, both Ech0 and Tarheels had not posted since the thread began. At that time, Tarheels had not logged into the forum since the 29th, but Ech0 had been on at 2 am.

    This leads me to believe that Ech0 was waiting to receive confirmation on who would be killed before posting. Since the Godfather was absent, the mafia would be better off holding back from pointing fingers at someone who would be subsequently killed.

    Scarecrow jumped the gun by claiming that he was proven innocent by his vote on a player who would be ejected anyway, almost as though it was arranged. However, knowing that Tarheels was the Godfather, I am much more suspicious of Ech0. I could be wrong.

    PFOS Scarecrow

    unvote: vote: Ech0
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    Pretty sure that I posted as soon as roles were distributed—I know I was online prior to roles being sent out but I didn't really care to post before then.

    Honestly, Flossie and I pretty much always vote for each other night 1. Don't think it's suspicious that I did so again this round.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Burninator View Post
    Mouse Keyboard - Scummy (due to failcake logic votes for me + me knowing I'm town)
    How does this not apply the other way around?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gibby View Post
    This leads me to believe that Ech0 was waiting to receive confirmation on who would be killed before posting.
    Except Ech0 posted a vote hours before Eric made his announcement.

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    Scarecrow jumped the gun by claiming that he was proven innocent by his vote on a player who would be ejected anyway
    I am MUCH more suspicious of this. By the time SC changed his vote, he may have already known Tar was removing himself...if he were mafia, of course. Burns accepting this, and giving him a pass as town? Something that also make me say Hmmmm. The problem here is that they both cannot be mafia (I don't think so, at least), as Burns put SC in a position where he was up on the block the first day.

    Having said all that, I keep going back to the other vote that caused the tie between SC and Flossie:

    Vote: Mullion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mouse-Keyboard View Post
    How does this not apply the other way around?
    He has a good point
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