ahh thanks
Wha I mainly said was show me, as it isn't to often that that happens as you usually spawn around where others are new. Which isn't exactly unknown is it, is it? And then I asked how well would your guide hold out if you spawned around the same time where others did. I didn't sday anything about you personally, so there was no need to go into **** like, blah blah blh I've gotten three wonders. As that post just seems that this guide is more about bragging or boasting that actually helping, even tohugh it does.
And, you made an error, if you go by this and start 3 days after it has started.
Normal servers I like to start 2 or 3 days after server start and speed servers I like to start about 3 days after start. Why? Because if I begin the server at noon, I want to be raiding by 2PM at the latest (4PM on a normal server).Wouldn't you still be in protection so no one can attack, so wouldn't it be easier to just scout a few further out targets and raid in groups.Before bed, send all of your troops (minus 1 scout) to a far away 2-5 population village. Make sure the round trip is just about to end when you decide to log on in the morning. No doubt they will have great spoils there. Just make sure you can handle the resources when they return. All available resources should be spent (before bed) where possible on Townhall prerequ’s or more troops. Don’t leave your troop queue active the first night. You don’t want them dead when you wake up.
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Khitan General: We have won again. This is good! But what is best in life?
Khitan Warrior: The open steppe, a fleet horse, falcons at your wrist, and the wind in your hair.
Khitan General: Wrong! Conan, what is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women!
NAILZZ
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You've accomplished nothing in this game. It doesn't bar you from asking questions but it does make you look like an idiot when you say "hey this won't work because of a whole lot of stuff I have no idea about". Don't start telling people what "normally" happens. And I don't have to SHOW you anything. I don't have to start an account and dance like a monkey for you. Why would you need to be SHOWN when there are testimonials all over this board. Use the search function. Don't bother me with this dumb stuff.
what are you talking about?
This is why your dumb. This question is answered in the guide dummy. The guide is pretty specific.
You did insult me personally. In the face of mountains of evidence that my guide works (not even taking into consideration my personal achievements and consistent use of my own guidelines) from testimonies all over this board, including within this post - you dare make a statment "you're guide won't work" even after you've done NOTHING in this game. That intimates that I'm lying and that everyone else is lying. THAT is what makes you dumb.
You're friggin' right I brag. You more than likely have no idea what it takes to be dominant in this game, let alone to stand with the victors when the dust settles. The game starts off as YOU vs. THOUSANDS. My guide says - "hey, this is how I did it. it's not the only way but it's a really good way. If you dedicate yourself, you can do it to". Sorry if you just can't do it.
I imagine your lips moving when this bile comes falling out of it. I AM NOT going to sit here and explain raiding and BP to you and how it works for you and for those around you. I won't justify this question with a direct answer. You are so ... so ... dumb.
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Khitan General: We have won again. This is good! But what is best in life?
Khitan Warrior: The open steppe, a fleet horse, falcons at your wrist, and the wind in your hair.
Khitan General: Wrong! Conan, what is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women!
NAILZZ
▫▪₪ Here I come ₪▪▫
Now you got nailzz all worked up... and now i gta give him a back massage... goddamit!!!![]()
Vote renegade 4 mod!!!
I PROMISEZ 2 BANZOR PPL!
Renegade S2
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Khitan General: We have won again. This is good! But what is best in life?
Khitan Warrior: The open steppe, a fleet horse, falcons at your wrist, and the wind in your hair.
Khitan General: Wrong! Conan, what is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women!
NAILZZ
▫▪₪ Here I come ₪▪▫
I have few questions:I started on a server and no1 player has 2 villages and 400+ pop.I am in bad neighbourhood and there is an alliance that has 4 members in my 7x7.ALL the players are at least 2 places away.I have one player in top alliance there.It is skruwed situation.I was on the wholle day yesterday(when I started) and I have only 10 clubs.It is imposible to do anything!(((((((((((((
Do you have something to save me?And should I restart as it will take 3 days to delete,and I will be a way behimd I think.Please answer me asap,and sorry for my english...
btw,a REALLY,REALLY good guide.Well done.
if you wish to add a part how much pop you lose when you conquer or just explein it to me here it would be helfull.ps.I am about to conquerd the first village ever!![]()
Last edited by NIDzA; 06-10-2008 at 12:43 PM.
well, what server is it? if it is server 2, alliances really mean nothing at this point. those are going to change when people decide to invest in embassies.
if you have to restart, you could just register with a new email. as long as you set the current account to delete and never sign in again, i dont think anyone will mind.
P.S. i fixed your spelling mistakes.
Thanks I am getting better day by day.
Also one more question,you don't have catapults in your hammer but you have those factorys.How much catas can one of those field and if I have a 15 cropper as a base should I still make those factorys or should I just make them in capital?
If you feel like you can't overcome your odds and you'll always be fighting from behind you should probably start over. You can set the account to delete, register another account and then immediately contact the ingame MH to let them know of the sitation. The only string is that you can NEVER log back into the other account. Let MH know that as well. They're pretty cool about it.
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Khitan General: We have won again. This is good! But what is best in life?
Khitan Warrior: The open steppe, a fleet horse, falcons at your wrist, and the wind in your hair.
Khitan General: Wrong! Conan, what is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women!
NAILZZ
▫▪₪ Here I come ₪▪▫
I never build a cata force with my hammer anymore. I find it easier to have a second and maybe a third be responsible for catas. It becomes a pain though having to time all the attacks and within the same second none the less but to me it's worth it.
You have to build your kingdom the way it's going to make you most successful for the way you play. Personally, I build my main hammer in the 15c, 850-1000 catas in my first village that I started with (on speed - half that on normal) and perhaps a 9c will have catas and an infantry escort.
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Khitan General: We have won again. This is good! But what is best in life?
Khitan Warrior: The open steppe, a fleet horse, falcons at your wrist, and the wind in your hair.
Khitan General: Wrong! Conan, what is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women!
NAILZZ
▫▪₪ Here I come ₪▪▫
So, Im going to play Teut. on a different server. So your saying to take a 4x4x4x6 as a second village. But in my 7x7 I have 2 15'c. In both 15'c there is a 15c and in the other is a 9c. Nailzz, I am asking, which do you prefer in such conditions? Go on with the cata village or get one of the 15c/9c?
My account is in s1. My name is Jorginho ;D
FARM ME
ok i got anouther question, how much gold do you need to make this work?
and 2nd i would like to say beutiful job and the guys that diss this are gay, just because it doesnt work for them and they dont understand there are a list of specifics where it needs to work.
Anyways ive tried this but its working kindov well but still slow, ill try again after the speed server resets and learn from my mistakes. I guess i need to get on more often and get more men id love to see a play by play (like a video or somthing of that sort) because i can not posibly imagine a village expanding on the 2nd day. Blows my mind
Anyways i do belive it is posible for a pros mind
good job
also i got anouther question, what do you do when somone attacks you?? like he is close enough that he waits for me to go offline (checks by sending messages and when u dont respond). do you send your resources away to anouther member who you feed off of? Also he has a freind who will help him plus he hides his units... what then?
Last edited by noname; 06-11-2008 at 09:18 PM.
You should be able to kill them boath together if you started early.
I have something you will maybe like to add:
How big should hammer when you have 3-4-5-6-7-8-.... and so villages or production![]()
Last edited by NIDzA; 06-12-2008 at 08:20 AM.
There is no situation that I've come across in the past 3 servers that would make me take anything but a 5 clayer as my second village when I play Teuton. I don't take a 4x4x4x6 and I don't take a cropper.
Also, I don't think you read the guide correctly. The second village MAY EVENTUALLY become a cata village but I don't build catas until much later, unless I have to zero pop someone who's foolishly settled a 9c or 15c near me.
I doubt if you'll be able to settle all four 15c and you definitely wouldn't want to do that right away anyway because you don't have the fields up yet to supply them all. In your situation I'd concentrate heavily on making sure my 13x13 was neutralized. I'd then build up maybe 3 villages around the closest 15c and then settle it as my 4th village. After building up the fields and resource buildings in two villages I'd then settle the 9c and then another woody or 4x4x4x6 and from there, my 7th village would probably be another 15c. I'd build two hammers in those croppers and then the 3rd cropper I'd use to build and store nothing but defensive TK's or spears.
It may even be advantageous to let the 2 further 15c be settled if it comes to that. Just continue to raid it and don't let anyone make it a capital. You can chief it later.
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Khitan General: We have won again. This is good! But what is best in life?
Khitan Warrior: The open steppe, a fleet horse, falcons at your wrist, and the wind in your hair.
Khitan General: Wrong! Conan, what is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women!
NAILZZ
▫▪₪ Here I come ₪▪▫
That depends completely on you and your level of patience. If you plan accordingly and anticipate shortages, are active all the time, use your main buidlings to your advantage and concentrate on your village stats it should be minimal.
But if you like to hop on for just a few hours every day you could be looking at steady gold use to try and stay ahead of the neighbors. Personally I hardly ever insta build and I use my npc merchant sparingly. I check the marketplace for QUICK deals but I'm not a slave to it.
I do always have on Travian Plus (helps me make quicker decisions; more efficient raiding) and near the middle and end server the wheat bonus.
This guide was meant for people who could put in the majority of their day doing this. I know it sounds crazy but is it really? some can log in from work and others from school. What do you normally do when you get home? Watch TV right? Do you have a wired or wireless laptop? Is your family computer in the family room along with the family television? Do you have a blackberry or PDA? Do you have a sitter or can you run a dual account? A triple? If people look at the way they spend most evenings, I'm sure they can implement a system where they can have maximum coverage for their account. I love raiding during the day EST time because most people are away and I don't have to deal with any pushback.
Neither can I. Who claimed to be able to get a second village on day two? Not me. In my guide moving day isn't until around day four or five on speed, perhaps up to a week and a half on normal server depending on the raiding conditions.
I don't get attacked by people in my 13x13. Normally when I get an attack (especially early on) it's from an alliance mate of someone near me that I'm farming. All I do is dodge that attack. They normally don't come back. I can probably count on one hand the number of times I'm attacked each speed server (two hands on normal). This is primarily because I move quickly and at odd hours for large engagements and because I raid like a muther.
If he's that close then he shouldn't have enough resources to build troops and attack you. You've got to appreciate the level of activity you need to completely subdue your neighbors. Anything less than 12 hours of play per day will most likely just not due. It sounds like you're a farm at this point. You've got to quickly turn that tide. If you're being farmed, you should never be sleeping. You should be straightening this situation out.
No. I'd use the NPC merchant to make short use of whatever resources I had, so he can't get anything. Then depending on the size of his raiding parties I'd deduce about how many troops they have. I'd then attack with a pretty good force, over and over and over again until both of their armies were dead. While that's going on you still want your other raids happening within the 13x13.
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Khitan General: We have won again. This is good! But what is best in life?
Khitan Warrior: The open steppe, a fleet horse, falcons at your wrist, and the wind in your hair.
Khitan General: Wrong! Conan, what is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women!
NAILZZ
▫▪₪ Here I come ₪▪▫
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Khitan General: We have won again. This is good! But what is best in life?
Khitan Warrior: The open steppe, a fleet horse, falcons at your wrist, and the wind in your hair.
Khitan General: Wrong! Conan, what is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women!
NAILZZ
▫▪₪ Here I come ₪▪▫
What's your opinion on Hammer location should you have a gold abused 15-c cap? (lvl 18-19 fields)
In cap or next to in order to use GB/GS?
-w_w
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ok so i have the hater's base under control and i have him as a farm BUT his freind keeps attacking me who has his 2nd village already. I am trying to negotiate with the freind to stop attacking me so i dont think this will last too long.
but if he does not stop what can i do? i am dodgeing the attacks.
and bout expanding on the 2nd day... i guess i read your guide wrong.
thanks for the help.
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Khitan General: We have won again. This is good! But what is best in life?
Khitan Warrior: The open steppe, a fleet horse, falcons at your wrist, and the wind in your hair.
Khitan General: Wrong! Conan, what is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women!
NAILZZ
▫▪₪ Here I come ₪▪▫
My kingdom doesn't negotiate with terrorists. He'll probably want to agree to a cease fire if you stop attacking his friend. That's no good for you because they'll double cross you and the farm will grow up one day and you'll have to watch it grow. With every population point a piece of you will die.
Depending on how far away this other "friend" is, you may have to attack and neutralize him. If he's attacking you then he's not raiding which means his army is not growing. If I were you I'd send a continuous loop of mace to him. First I'd send one then one again and then the whole force and then one again and one about three more times and then the whole force. While you have the whole force, continue to raid the farm and all other farms. Remember to keep scouting too so you don't lose your whole deal.
In the meantime just dodge and use the npc merchant to get rid of your resources right before he attacks.
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Khitan General: We have won again. This is good! But what is best in life?
Khitan Warrior: The open steppe, a fleet horse, falcons at your wrist, and the wind in your hair.
Khitan General: Wrong! Conan, what is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women!
NAILZZ
▫▪₪ Here I come ₪▪▫
You mean hatersports?If it is he,you aren't going to finish that game easily...he will pawn you eventualy...
how large should your army be at 2/3/4/5 feeder villages.
Thats what I am asking.And it can be good,so some noobs don't start making a force of 45 k axemans with 2 villages!
Can you make a guide for romans?Please?It would be so great!!!![]()
Last edited by NIDzA; 06-12-2008 at 08:20 AM.
Nope. I've got both bonus buildings and +25% wheat from plus. If I need more then I'll get an oasis. If I have to carry -150 wheat or so that's nothing to a 2 granary village. It would take a month and a half to deplete from double granaries. That's simple enough to maintain. it's inconsequential really.
Last edited by Nailzz; 06-12-2008 at 02:47 PM.
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Khitan General: We have won again. This is good! But what is best in life?
Khitan Warrior: The open steppe, a fleet horse, falcons at your wrist, and the wind in your hair.
Khitan General: Wrong! Conan, what is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women!
NAILZZ
▫▪₪ Here I come ₪▪▫
6x200>1200
6x100>600
6x50>300
2100 crop per village.that is 300 negative,but as you sad it is not a problem.Thanks for clearing that part for me
I just wanted to share something from my server:
I attacked one alliance members,hazard-a,and they were all angry.They all suplied one guy to research catas and raiforced him so I don't hit him.It was a good defense.They had 150 leg.,and about 100 pre(no they didn't have scouts).He builded 4 catas and attacked me!lol guy didn't reallise that I had found out about this and that I had some defensive troops.I owned himHis raiforcments were there for 2 days and they left.I made him my farm.
What assholls...
Honestly, this was probably the best thing I have read in about 6 months. Period.
Coming from someone who only plays as either a Gaul or Roman, You have genuinely made me want to play as a teuton, and you know what, I bloody well will!
Great work
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Khitan General: We have won again. This is good! But what is best in life?
Khitan Warrior: The open steppe, a fleet horse, falcons at your wrist, and the wind in your hair.
Khitan General: Wrong! Conan, what is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women!
NAILZZ
▫▪₪ Here I come ₪▪▫
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Khitan General: We have won again. This is good! But what is best in life?
Khitan Warrior: The open steppe, a fleet horse, falcons at your wrist, and the wind in your hair.
Khitan General: Wrong! Conan, what is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women!
NAILZZ
▫▪₪ Here I come ₪▪▫
click if you dare
you caught me
I don't need an intervention!
In response to recent color declarations, I am white.
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Khitan General: We have won again. This is good! But what is best in life?
Khitan Warrior: The open steppe, a fleet horse, falcons at your wrist, and the wind in your hair.
Khitan General: Wrong! Conan, what is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women!
NAILZZ
▫▪₪ Here I come ₪▪▫