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    Quote Originally Posted by Cora View Post
    And yeah, I think any woman can be as good as any man in a "man's job", the way I think any man can be as good as any woman in a "woman's job".
    Kind of following on from Beefy here, but I much prefer female doctors and dentists. Perhaps it is because I am a wimp when it comes to needles and perhaps I assume a little about here, but I feel they have a softer touch somehow, which I do prefer when they are poking around.

    *Shrugs* at the same time my favourite dentist ever was male, but he wore brightly coloured silly bow ties, which just put you off thinking about anything really. When the bloke has a hot pink bow tie with yellow polka dots you are not thinking about your teeth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beefy View Post
    I don't know about this, every time a woman makes me a sandwich it seems to taste better.
    Besides my grandmother, I don't know know any women that cook better than the men in my family or my friends.

    I've cooked better than every girlfriend I've ever had. Ever notice how all the top chefs on TV are men?

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    He discusses the “types” of women he finds sexually appealing and/or attempts to demean women by telling them he does not find them sexually appealing.
    I think this one bothered/confused me the most, I can't find the link of talking about the preference of glasses or no glasses on a woman would lead me to supporting ****. If anyone minds, care to clear up how I'd go from going "Hey she's attractive, but her not so much" to "GO ****, GO?" I've also told a woman I didn't find her attractive because they asked I didn't walk over and go "U ugly lolz" but that doesn't seem to matter according to this list I already supported **** before this one. I'm not even 18 yet feels bad man, feels bad. Or does this only apply to those 18+?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kappa View Post
    Or does this only apply to those 18+?
    No, it applies to all guys. It doesn't apply to women, though.
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    Little girls aren’t known for picking the wings off flies or frying ants to death on the sidewalk.
    Reading this (from a different article by her) I'd say she hates all men of all ages so I assume that this list applies to all men. Of course it's all way to vague like if I were to say "I like your hair." apparently I support ****.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spiderham View Post
    No, it applies to all guys. It doesn't apply to women, though.
    That's a pretty depressing outlook on the rest of life. Wait, so even if a woman fits every single one of those reasons she listed, she still doesn't support ****? Now maybe its because this is my first time posting in something like this, but that seems just a bit one sided.
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    What if a woman rapes a women? Does that make her a **** supporter? Then is she considered a man?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gotmilk View Post
    What if a woman rapes a women? Does that make her a **** supporter? Then is she considered a man?
    Then we watch it on porn, which in turn makes us support ****. No, she's a woman. No, because women can't support ****. They can commit it, but not support it.

    I think that using the name gotmilk should be added to the list of activities that support ****.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baron D'Holbach View Post
    Then we watch it on porn, which in turn makes us support ****. No, she's a woman. No, because women can't support ****. They can commit it, but not support it.

    I think that using the name gotmilk should be added to the list of activities that support ****.
    I wouldn't say I support ****. Nowhere on that list does she say committing the act of **** is support.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gotmilk View Post
    I wouldn't say I support ****. Nowhere on that list does she say committing the act of **** is support.
    Got milk? seems like a very rapey thing to cry out whilst raping someone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baron D'Holbach View Post
    Got milk? seems like a very rapey thing to cry out whilst raping someone.
    Right, thats what I was talking about too, now just don't tell the prosecutors about this and I can let you live.....

    I mean, I bet this lady just doesn't get enough, amirite?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick7000 View Post
    Reading this (from a different article by her) I'd say she hates all men of all ages so I assume that this list applies to all men. Of course it's all way to vague like if I were to say "I like your hair." apparently I support ****.
    I like your hair...

    Quote Originally Posted by Gotmilk View Post
    What if a woman rapes a women? Does that make her a **** supporter? Then is she considered a man?
    I dunno...again...want me to **** you and we put a poll up to figure out if I'm a **** supporter or a dude?

    Anyway...the only time I had my drink spiked was actually in a lesbian bar. The next day I was going to my friends going, "Omg!! I had the weirdest allergic reaction to my drink last night! Everything went blue for a second before my vision started going in and out, and then I started losing control of my limbs. I remember telling my friends something is wrong but then I can't remember what happened for the rest of the night...never been that drunk before!"

    Yeah...my friends told me that probably wasn't an allergic reaction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gotmilk View Post
    Right, thats what I was talking about too, now just don't tell the prosecutors about this and I can let you live.....

    I mean, I bet this lady just doesn't get enough, amirite?
    She shouldn't have been such a tease.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cora View Post


    I dunno...again...want me to **** you
    Yes. Just nothing up my ***.


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    She shouldn't have been such a tease.
    Hey, if she would have just said yes, I wouldn't have had to roofie her, and we could have avoided this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cora View Post
    I dunno...again...want me to **** you and we put a poll up to figure out if I'm a **** supporter or a dude?
    Can anyone sign up for this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by beefy View Post
    Can anyone sign up for this?
    Maybe she should host a **** Party? We could all go to Indonesia and get raped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beefy View Post
    Can anyone sign up for this?
    Before doing so, you might want to read her previous posts on the subject... she seems to have quite the urge to stick some adult toys up a guy's poop-chute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woden View Post
    Before doing so, you might want to read her previous posts on the subject... she seems to have quite the urge to stick some adult toys up a guy's poop-chute.
    I'll pass on that, but if Cora wants to cat-call me on the street and smack my ***, I'm all for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woden View Post
    Before doing so, you might want to read her previous posts on the subject... she seems to have quite the urge to stick some adult toys up a guy's poop-chute.
    .... I'm still not giving it a solid no.

    Wait, am I a **** supporter now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by beefy View Post
    .... I'm still not giving it a solid no.

    Wait, am I a **** supporter now?
    Basically, the fact that you are male makes you a **** supporter.

    So does this mean a woman who undergoes a sex-change is a **** supporter?

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    So technically, a man can get raped and support it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baron D'Holbach View Post
    So technically, a man can get raped and support it.
    So we all want Cora to do bad things to our butt holes, but just don't know it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gotmilk View Post
    So we all want Cora to do bad things to our butt holes, but just don't know it?
    You ever seen road trip? If not, watch it and this sentence will have new meaning for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gotmilk View Post
    So we all want Cora to do bad things to our butt holes, but just don't know it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by beefy View Post
    You ever seen road trip? If not, watch it and this sentence will have new meaning for you.
    Oh S'cusey S'scusey!

    Love that movie... which makes me a **** supporter.
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    That list has to be sarcastic. Or that's what I would think if I hadn't read the poster's responses to comments.

    Ironically, she's trivializing **** by claiming that any and all forms of sexism, exploitation, or mere pursuit of sexual gratification through a non-approved channel (like pornography) constitutes **** support.

    Given that humans do, in fact, have sexual needs, banning the things she criticizes (like pornography and strip clubs) would be more oppressive than allowing them to exist. Sexual repression probably isn't as big of a form of psychological mistreatment as ****, but it is harmful to the emotional well-being of people.

    I may even go so far as to say that in order for soliciting a prostitute to automatically be **** (regardless of whether the prostitute in question was a victim of human trafficking, a drug addict, etc.), it would be necessary that men had free will and women did not. Men would have to have free will for their basic pursuit of gratification (through soliciting, pornography etc.) to be some horrible evil, while women would have to lack it for the decision to voluntarily participate in prostitution or filming pornography to not count as consent. Of course, this author apparently rejects the idea that consent can exist in most situations, which could be why her definition of **** is so all-encompassing.

    To be fair, in the comments section, she does clarify some things that should have been in the main text:

    **** is based in part on the idea that women are objects which exist for male sexual pleasure or use, or that women exist as a class to be sexually dominated. Many of the actions/positions I listed do so by implying that **** or sexual “use” of women as objects is inherent to the human species (the idea that people have sexual “needs,” for instance, which taken to its logical conclusion implies women are cruel for not sexually engaging with some men or that **** is an adaptive trait for men to meet their “needs”; same thing with the idea that women “should” have children, ie., “should” engage in sexual intercourse with men and become pregnant). Others do so by placing all the emphasis in a situation on the woman’s “consent” without addressing any underlying social/psychological/economic factors involved and without giving the man any responsibility (ie, people who speak of Thomas Jefferson having an “affair” with a woman he kept enslaved, or women “consensually” involved in prostitution or BDSM who are suffering from PTSD).
    If those qualifiers had been in the main text, some of it might have actually been reasonable. Of course, she goes on to say stupid stuff like:

    Some of them directly reference women being treated as, literally, objects (“I like women with small breasts,” “I like blondes,” “I love curvy women,” “I like tough girls,” all reduce women to [often physical] traits or “types,” like picking a favorite ice cream flavor;
    Apparently, having sexual preferences automatically means not understanding any aspects of the person other than the expressed preferred characteristics. Also, if a person speaks in a way that makes them sound more shallow than they really are because they have been culturally conditioned to think that people will understand what they mean if they speak in that way, it makes them a **** supporter.

    I cannot comprehend how anyone with even the faintest understanding of the psychology of the desire for sex could have written that. For that matter, I don't know whether anyone who has ever been single while desiring to be otherwise (i.e. 90+% of the population over 15) could have written it.

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    What does that even mean?
    I'm guessing it means "a person who looks at sex in economic terms as an exchange that is agreed upon by two people."

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    Good lord! There goes 90% of the male population and probably 30% of the female population.
    I disagree with the size of those percentages. I have never been to one and could name many of my friends who have quite likely never been either. I don't know whether my friends are typical here, but those numbers sound pretty high.

    Quote Originally Posted by Woden View Post
    After reading both her list, and some of her responses to the oh-so-few comments she's allowed, I'm led to the conclusion that she is not a feminist; rather, she is simply a man-hater. The reason being: A feminist would be interested in gender equality, but I detected a strong undercurrent of "it's all men's fault" and "men can do no right" coming from a lot of what she said (including things like the double-standard I pointed out in regards to the genders of actors in porn, and the general pejorative of calling every male who doesn't fit her narrow criteria a "****-supporter", rather than simply a sexist, misogynist, chauvinist, or other more-applicable term).


    One thing that can really tick me off is female chauvinists calling themselves feminists, as they are giving a bad name to a group that I have no particular qualms with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Woden View Post
    Y'know, now that I think about it, I'm probably technically a feminist... although I think that's a bad term for it, as the idea is more about gender equality, whereas the name "feminism" lends itself far too well to misuse by the crazies like the one this thread is about.
    There are countless different schools of feminist thought. For example, just off the top of my head, and in no particular order:

    Sociology:
    Feminism as a subset of structural functionalism - People who focus on the important (and different) role of women in a functioning society/family/dyad/etc...
    Feminism as a subset of conflict theory - People who focus on how the status, power, and prestige of women differs from that on men in the struggle for scarce resources
    Feminism as a subset of symbolic interactionism - People who focus on how symbols are interpreted differently by the different genders

    Psychobiological:
    Feminists that focus on biological differences between men and women, and how those biological differences affect brain processes and life experiences

    Social Justice Feminism:
    Feminists who focus on equal rights and equal treatment
    Feminists who stress pride in unequal performance, or who take pride in traditional gender roles
    Militant feminists who seek to shift the balance of power and drastically alter society (probably a subset of conflict theory)

    So, long story short, there are more flavors of feminism in the world than there are flavors of ice cream at Baskin Robbins. This author is no more a feminist than I am... We're just different kinds of feminists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhyme View Post
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    Nice summary.

    Is there a category for "feminists who think that because too many women get raped and a few men say insensitive things when confronted with this fact or have objectifying attitudes that vaguely resemble those of rapists, all men are evil and women should always let paranoia prevent them from thinking anything good about them?" Or would you agree with Woden that the OP author is more like a female chauvinist?


    Quote Originally Posted by Rhyme View Post
    Feminism as a subset of structural functionalism - People who focus on the important (and different) role of women in a functioning society/family/dyad/etc...
    Feminists who stress pride in unequal performance, or who take pride in traditional gender roles
    I think there are quite a few feminists (including sane ones who don't think sexuality is evil) who would call a man "sexist" if he took either of those positions.

    You can be called sexist by some people for saying that there are inherent differences between men and women, but you can be called sexist by other people for overlooking differences in the needs or perspective of men vs. women. I like the idea of feminism in general, but it seems like a substantial number of feminists fall into one of two categories:
    A. Those who call you sexist if you say there are differences between men and women.
    B. Those who call you sexist if you fail to account for differences between men and women.
    (The woman in the OP link definitely falls into the second category. Her view that all men are dastardly "**** supporters" requires that men and women are different.)

    I've been criticized for getting people hooked by posting tvtropes links before, but I'd like to say that the page "RealWomenNeverWearDresses" is somewhat relevant to what I'm saying here. They show a picture of Mulan cutting her hair off. The page quote is

    "...while most reasonable people see women and men as equals, few (if any) dare to claim that femininity is masculinity's equal."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhyme View Post
    So, long story short, there are more flavors of feminism in the world than there are flavors of ice cream at Baskin Robbins.
    There's 31 at Baskin Robbins and I don't think any of them are Sour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tifforo View Post
    Nice summary.

    Is there a category for "feminists who think that because too many women get raped and a few men say insensitive things when confronted with this fact or have objectifying attitudes that vaguely resemble those of rapists, all men are evil and women should always let paranoia prevent them from thinking anything good about them?" Or would you agree with Woden that the OP author is more like a female chauvinist?
    The author certainly fits nicely here. Very militant attitude. "People must be informed! Rational debate with men is not possible! They must accept that they are **** supporters!"

    I thought Woden's term for it was a pretty good one. I just objected to the idea that a female chauvinist isn't also a feminist.

    I think there are quite a few feminists (including sane ones who don't think sexuality is evil) who would call a man "sexist" if he took either of those positions.

    You can be called sexist by some people for saying that there are inherent differences between men and women, but you can be called sexist by other people for overlooking differences in the needs or perspective of men vs. women. I like the idea of feminism in general, but it seems like a substantial number of feminists fall into one of two categories:
    A. Those who call you sexist if you say there are differences between men and women.
    B. Those who call you sexist if you fail to account for differences between men and women.
    (The woman in the OP link definitely falls into the second category. Her view that all men are dastardly "**** supporters" requires that men and women are different.)

    I've been criticized for getting people hooked by posting tvtropes links before, but I'd like to say that the page "RealWomenNeverWearDresses" is somewhat relevant to what I'm saying here. They show a picture of Mulan cutting her hair off. The page quote is

    "...while most reasonable people see women and men as equals, few (if any) dare to claim that femininity is masculinity's equal."
    —Julia Serano, Whipping Girl
    I agree with all of this. When you say that men would be called sexist, you're absolutely right. But likewise, if a woman stated this belief, other women would say, "Thanks for setting the Women's Movement back 50 years!"

    Nice quote at the end, too. I absolutely agree.

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    The author is my hero. I love her. I want to be her when I grow up.

    But if you want a serious answer from another man hating feminist... you support **** if you:
    1. **** someone
    2. allow a **** to happen (like your buddy is like "I am going to **** this girl. Keep look out for me." and then you say "okay" and keep lookout)


    Watching pr0n just makes you human and the other stuff she said, well, she's trolling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ms. Evil View Post
    The author is my hero. I love her. I want to be her when I grow up.

    But if you want a serious answer from another man hating feminist... you support **** if you:
    1. **** someone
    2. allow a **** to happen (like your buddy is like "I am going to **** this girl. Keep look out for me." and then you say "okay" and keep lookout)


    Watching pr0n just makes you human and the other stuff she said, well, she's trolling.
    Are you a **** supporter if, coming upon a **** in progress, you do nothing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ms. Evil View Post
    But if you want a serious answer from another man hating feminist... you support **** if you:
    1. **** someone
    What if you yell surprise first?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StealthSigma View Post
    Are you a **** supporter if, coming upon a **** in progress, you do nothing?
    That just makes you an *******.

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    What if you yell surprise first?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ms. Evil View Post
    That just makes you an *******.
    What if you join in the party?

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    I support raping the author of this article.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirveri View Post
    I support raping the author of this article.
    I should send her a link to this thread. She would make my past emorages look like I was posting lolcats. I am bringing her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ms. Evil View Post
    The author is my hero. I love her. I want to be her when I grow up.

    But if you want a serious answer from another man hating feminist... you support **** if you:
    1. **** someone
    2. allow a **** to happen (like your buddy is like "I am going to **** this girl. Keep look out for me." and then you say "okay" and keep lookout)


    Watching pr0n just makes you human and the other stuff she said, well, she's trolling.
    She is indeed trolling, at least this post makes me think she is:

    http://evebitfirst.wordpress.com/2011/05/19/over-9000/

    But if she is serious in her views then there are some issues. I believe in one of her comments was along the lines of "I have yet to meet a man who does not one of these categories" which to me seems like she does think all men are ****-supporters. How she can take such an extreme stance is a mystery to me, but I believe one of the commenters said it right when they stated that "her extreme stance diminishes the act of **** and the horrible things those people have gone through"
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    "A fool shows his annoyance at once, but a prudent man overlooks an insult." - Proverbs 12:16

    "Comparison is the thief of joy." - Theodore Roosevelt

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